How Much Will This Cost Taxpayers?

by lewwaters

Footage from the March 5, 2012 Vancouver, Washington City Council meeting pertaining to the outcome of an unfair labor practice suit brought by the International Association of Fire Fighters local 452.

“CVTV footage, obtained pursuant to the Public Disclosure Act, in no way is intended by CVTV, the City of Vancouver, or Clark County to either promote or oppose any candidate for public office or any ballot proposition.”

Didn’t the city recently have to beg for and received a federal grant in order to reopen and rehire Fire Fighters for Fire Station 6?

And this notice now being read includes the city will “restore the status quo ante by reinstating the wages, hours and working conditions which existed for the employees in the affected bargaining unit prior to the unilateral change in the shift trade policy found unlawful in this order.”

Also, the city will “pay any and all back pay and/or benefits associated with the employer’s adoption of the shift trade policy found unlawful in this order.”

See decision here

UPDATE: A reporter with the Columbian says of their not covering this, “I didn’t write about this because after researching the issue behind it, I found the back pay issue was a negligible amount of money, and the shift change issue was so insider baseball that it wasn’t worth it”

10 Comments to “How Much Will This Cost Taxpayers?”

  1. This is one good reason that public employees should be prohibited from having a union.

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  2. As President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a decidedly left-leaning Democrat said in 1937, “All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations.”

    We have definitely been seeing the truth of those words the last couple years.

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  3. Yeah, I was there on Monday when they were very careful in their wording so that the public might not catch onto the fact that the city lost a lawsuit in court. When will the private part of the public at large learn that these unions are not good for public job status. Either we get rid of all paid public sector jobs and contract at bid for all work done or we sink with the ship.

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  4. I notice too that it was held until the very last of the meeting when usually, most people in attendance have left.

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  5. Police and Firefighter union unwillingness to negotiate on lavish pensions etc. ultimately drove Vallejo, CA into bankruptcy.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/capitol/the_lessons_of_vallejo_bankruptcy_q6Q8btBjnM68KPxzpF6IiL

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  6. I guess public unions figure they don’t need to “share in the sacrifice” or “pay their fair share?”

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  7. Gee…. with leadership like Vancouver has… can this possibly be a surprise?

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  8. Ain interesting book on the topic:

    Plunder! How Public Employee Unions Are Raiding Treasuries, Controlling Our Lives, and Bankrupting the Nation

    http://readperiodicals.com/201004/2065586351.html

    “Greenhut’s book focuses on California, and his background as a journalist results in a narrative-driven examination of the public sector union problem. He examines how public sector workers can often retire at age 50 or 55 mad draw very large pensions. In California, for example, there are more than 9,000 retired public sector workers with annual pensions of more than $100,000 a year. Oftentimes these high pensions result from government workers abusing the system; for example, the last year of an employee’s salary may be artificially inflated to garner a larger annual pension, a technique known as “pension spiking.”

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  9. Let’s not forget the “Double-dipping” that was found right here in Washington in the last couple years.

    Retired public workers drawing a pension and being rehired by the state drawing a salary too!

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012217904_retirerehire27m.html

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorials/2013679281_edit15rehire.html?prmid=obinsite

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  10. So what did the “negligible amount of money” come to in actual dollars?

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