Posts tagged ‘MEChA’

February 14, 2009

Latina Lista

by leaortiz

Here is a link to a site that has angered me with their lies about conservatives and endorsing illegals.

http://www.latinalista.net/palabrafinal/2009/01/republican-antics-proves-if-party-disapp.html

I post my commment below because I am most certain it will not be plublished by the Latina Lista. I am also a latina, a non-hyphenated American and do not join the group think of this very prejudiced group of illegal advocates.

You are wrong. I am not ashamed to tell you that you are wrong either. This culture you are speaking of does not embrace America, or American thinking. You cling to your Spanish and force your children to speak it. Don’t tell me you don’t because I know better. You refuse to assimilate to our culture you cling to your Hispanic culture. You think we should do what you want. Amazing isn’t it?

When laws are broken there are consequences, face it. I am an American of Mexican descent.

Creating subcultures in America does not bring this nation together, and what are doing here is dividing it all the more.

Oh but I do recognize illegal aliens when I see them. No they don’t speak English, their children speak for them. They remain in a self imposed bubble.

You are doing no favors by trying to bring down another group of people that are Americans. It is plain that you don’t appreciate being here, by demanding rights you as a non citizen don’t deserve.

As far as lies and name calling. I have gone face to face with these illegals saying I am a racist, me of Mexican descent because I want our borders secured and our already burdened financial situation to stop being depleted by illegals.

Amazing that you will come here and use our freedom of speech. Will you do the same and fight for this country? Will you lay down you life for this country? OR will you continue to help with these advocacy groups to help more illegals to find out how to get aid to feed their children, get food stamps and how to send money back to other countries and how to bring more of their families here and continue this crazy cycle. This country is suffering financially. Can anyone figure out why?????

This kind of propoganda and seeking a sympathetic ear just angers me. It angers a multitude of Americans as well.

November 22, 2008

MEChA Distorts Purpose Of I-409

by lewwaters

mecha-1As most know, Clark County Conservative is one of the supporters of the proposed Initiative 409, a measure intended to encourage Washington State Law Enforcement and Businesses to uphold and enforce our current immigration laws throughout the state.

The heaviest opposition is coming from Hispanic/Latino groups who seem to encourage as many ILLEGAL immigrants to come here as possible.

Some students from Washington State University in Pullman expressed their displeasure with the proposed initiative in the Universities paper, the Daily Evergreen in October and as expected, distorted the purpose of I-409 and pulled on people’s heartstrings.

Students handed out flyers prominently displaying, No to I-409, Yes to Human Rights.”

One is left wondering, if they really are so concerned about “Human Rights,” why do they not encourage the country of Mexico to treat their citizens better instead of sending them north?

Where are their protests of the mistreatment of Hispanic/Latino citizens by a corrupt government and the wealthier south of us that causes so many from that nation, to speak of just one, to ILLEGALLY enter our country?

Adriana Sanchez, MEChA co-chairwoman said,

I see I-409 as a discriminating act, it is denying opportunity to the less fortunate. I hope people look outside the box and realize the negative effects this initiative could have on children such as denying them high school education or the negative effects of denying health care to those who need it or the cost to produce productivity. It’s inhumane. If the proposal goes forward, it could be interpreted to say that children illegally in the U.S. could not attend high school, and that anyone over the age of 14 would be ineligible for medical care.”

Ms. Sanchez, with all due respect, no one is denied medical care in an emergency case in this nation. Still, U.S. taxpayers are all too often left holding the bills for such care, straining our already overburdened medical system and tax structure.

Those here ILLEGALLY cost our schools more as many must be instructed in the native language, many not desiring to assimilate to our culture by learning our language. We taxpayers must pay those costs, not the native countries.

Still, I must think back to my original statement, if these advocacy groups fought half as hard to improve conditions for those who feel they have a right to violate our laws in their native lands as they do here, would those who come here ILLEGALLY and operate “under the radar” even need our facilities and tax dollars?

I am left wondering too is Ms. Sanchez has ever looked up the very word she uses, ILLEGAL, in a dictionary.

Readers too might be interested in just who and what MEChA really is.

MEChA stands for Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán, roughly translated, the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán, considered by some to be an umbrella organization of radical Chicano student groups. It was founded in 1969, during a period of much leftist unrest in America. Aztlán is the territory in the Southwestern United States and West Coast that America purchased from Mexico in 1848, after defeating them in war and paying $15,000,000.00 as per the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

MEChA founders feel the mythical land of Aztlán belongs to them, not the United States of America. Their goal seems to be their liberation from the ‘White occupiers’ of the Western United States.

They claim their desire on the first site linked in the paragraph above as,

A nation autonomous and free – culturally, socially, economically, and politically- will make its own decisions on the usage of our lands, the taxation of our goods, the utilization of our bodies for war, the determination of justice (reward and punishment), and the profit of our sweat.”

From the second link above, we find,

MEChA was founded on the principles of self-determination for the liberation of our people,” and “the affirmation that we are Indigenous people to this land by placing our movement in Aztlan, the homeland of all peoples from Anahuak.”

See also MEChA National Constitution (pdf) and MEChA Philosophy.

Audio of some of their statements over the years, mostly through the 1990’s, can be heard at this Snopes.com article. Note, they are mostly taken from California events, not Washington State, but the goals are the same.

Summing this all up is the words of Margarita Esquivel, co-chairwoman of the Chicano/a Latino/a Student Alliance in the Daily Evergreen article,

It is we who determine how our state is being governed and the policies that are enacted which will effect our future.”

Did Ms. Esquivel forget about the rest of us?”

November 21, 2008

Vancouver Ignoring ILLEGAL Alien Problem?

by lewwaters

vancouver-logoAs most anyone who has shopped in Wal-Mart, Ross or the Dollar Stores around town knows, we seem to have an over abundance of recent immigrants. Many seem to have no inclination to assimilate to our culture, preferring to retain their own, including their native language.

As has been mentioned before, here and here, an effort is underway in our state to bring an Initiative before the legislature, and voters if need be, to curtail those that choose to enter the country ILLEGALLY, take advantage of the benefits here and take jobs at lower wages than our citizens would.

Response from citizens has been pretty good so far as we have gone door to door in my neighborhood, attended gun shows in Portland and Vancouver and stood outside many businesses gathering signatures. Not everyone is receptive, naturally, but response has been pretty good.

A friend in this effort, ‘Eric,’ recently emailed the Vancouver City Council inquiring if Council members would stand with us in upholding our Immigration Laws by supporting and signing the petition for I-409.

The response ‘Eric’ received from Councilman Pat Campbell is somewhat shocking, to say the least. He responded,

Eric,
We are having a financial crisis down here in Vancouver. Not sure that this is an issue we can deal with locally except through the referrals to ICE which have been ongoing when a person who may be the the category you speak of is convicted of a crime.

I know we are likely providing water, sewer, and garbage services down here, but the illegals aren’t being segregated out by either us of Clark Public Utilities (electricity) and either pay their bills or they are cut off…

I have occasional contact Don, Joe, Jaimie, and Ed but they haven’t mentioned this as an urgent problem or suggested a solution.

Good luck to you and please don’t go too far with this. My ancestors did not have permission from the Snohomish Tribe to move here when they first arrived in Washington State. Hope you XXXXXX’s have your documents…
Seriously,
Pat Campbell

Reviewing this reply leaves me with a few questions.

If someone is in our country in violation of standing immigration laws, is that not already a crime?

Could Vancouver’s current “financial crisis” be due in part to waiting until a matter becomes an “urgent problem” before dealing with it?

Blogger note: Question of Pat Campbells advocating the city purchase of the Columbian building has been removed as I was incorrect on that. By his words in the comments below, “I supported an assessment of the matter.” My apologies for the erroneous assumption.

If ILLEGALS do not pay their utility bills, are they really shut off? Or, do they fall under Clark Public Utilities Operation Warm Heart?

My wife, who hails from Houston, can testify that ILLEGAL immigrants have an underground network informing each other of cheap places to live and social programs they can obtain with a minimum of effort. I find it hard to believe they haven’t the same here.

Most disturbing in his reply is the final paragraph that I cannot take as anything but a threat to a citizen making a legal inquiry to a public servant about upholding the current law.

We are supposed to be a nation of laws, are we not? Have we gotten to where laws will be cherry picked by our elected officials as to which will be followed or not? And, if we question one not being enforced, do we deserve threats from those who are elected to represent us?

As for having “documents,” Councilman Campbell, I hold a Birth Certificate issued in the State of Florida in 1948. Last I heard, that is within the Continental United States, even if we used to speak funny down there.

I also hold two DD 214’s, a few medals for Military Service in Viet Nam, Germany and Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I hold a lifetime membership in Disabled American Veterans and a VA Medical card. I pay property tax on the home I own with my wife and hold a valid Washington Drivers License.

What’s more, Councilman, should I take all of those to Mexico, Canada or any other country for employment or benefits, they get me nothing, as it should be.

But, the main question remains, why does an elected public servant feel the need to threaten a citizen who inquires about enforcing the law?

UPDATE: Pat Campbell admits it was intended as a joke. See comments below.

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